Talk:EJ temperament

"This temperament is also often referred to as the EJ temperament. " why can't we just call it the EJ temperment then? IMO these big words don't make anything clearer. Bionicgoat 09:36, 23 June 2007 (CDT)

Good point -- I believe it's due to a wish to avoid using the four-letter codes as the "official" socionics names, but I agree that it's not the clearest way of putting it. Expat 13:26, 23 June 2007 (CDT)

However, these temperaments were invented by Gulenko, and these are the names he uses because the classification is not necessarily obvious to other socionists. It is just one temperament theory and is not applied universally. We could also say, "the SI temperament" (sensing introverts) or "NJ temperament" (intuitive rationals) if we created other temperament systems. I guess all I'm saying is that equating temperaments in socionics to Gulenko's temperaments is a bit misleading. (Admin 14:22, 23 June 2007 (CDT))

Bionicgoat has an excellent point. Temperament, in English-speaking socionics, is used exclusively to refer to EJ/IJ/EP/IP. These names are extremely verbose, and only exist to avoid the four-letter code, which is much more succinct and elegant. English-speaking socionists who use temperaments on a regular basis (e.g. Expat, Smilingeyes, me) do not use these names. To name the articles after them will mislead beginners when they become part of the socionics community (which is the16types forum, essentially).

On the issue of verbosity, please try to avoid ridiculously long phrases like "individuals of linear-insistent (EJ) temperament are inclined to", and the word "individual" in general. Thehotelambush 01:10, 7 July 2007 (CDT)