User talk:Thehotelambush/Famous people

Obama

Interesting. I have been slowly giving up my IEI typing of him and moving back to my previous typing, LIE. For me, Obama is a typical well-cultured intellectual: able to entertain multiple viewpoints, understand the tentativeness of one's own conclusions, and with a good understanding of science and societal trends. One notable characteristic is his dry wordiness, which speaks strongly against IEI and more towards LIE or even IEE. --Admin 16:00, 1 June 2010 (BST)

Yeah, all of this stuff has been a consistent theme in his presidency. The whole campaign "charismatic speaker" thing is poor evidence in comparison for . Also, everything you listed there is . :) Thehotelambush 23:41, 1 June 2010 (BST)

Regina Spektor

Her songs are pretty abstract and she has said that they're ambiguous. Would that be a good reason to retype her from to  ? Anonymous 08:00, 30 June 2010 (BST)

That could be her using or , but it doesn't outweigh the info IMO. Thehotelambush 15:35, 22 September 2010 (BST)

Jesus

I'm pretty skeptical about Jesus. It's highly likely that the record we have of what he said and did is inaccurate and that elements were mixed in from the religious traditions of nations that were being proselytized to. You can read Nietzsche's The Antichrist for an interesting discussion of who the real Jesus was and what he probably taught. In brief, according to N., Jesus was teaching that those who were falling through the cracks of the increasingly bureaucratic and burdensome Jewish religion could experience happiness and liberation by developing their inner freedom and not letting priests, judges, and religious dogma gain power over their soul. N.'s interepretation makes a lot of sense to me and explains where the unique core teachings of Christianity may have come from (I'm not referring to things like Resurrection, the Last Days, Heaven and Hell, etc., which N. does not think came from Jesus). Assuming he is correct, Jesus was an anarchist teacher of inner freedom and could have been one of any number of types, but SEE doesn't seem to be the obvious choice.

There may be other hypotheses about what the real Jesus was like, but none that I have heard had much sophistication to them. --Admin 20:38, 16 September 2010 (BST)

"teacher of inner freedom" - this applies to all enlightened teachers, e.g. Buddha, Osho, Lao Tzu, Nisargadatta etc. Even ignoring all of those teachings, Jesus uses harsh language that is meant to show people the immorality of their ways ("you hypocrites", "are you jealous because I am generous?", etc.). I agree that his teaching is anarchist; this I would say indicates devalued + irrationality. (He brought an ethical perspective on what was probably a largely logical Jewish tradition.) Osho is very similar in that respect. I am not familiar with The Antichrist. Also, I would note that almost all of Jesus' parables are centered on commerce. Thehotelambush 15:35, 22 September 2010 (BST)